By Jordan B Peterson

Because frogs need to grow up and transform into princes…. The second part of my discussion with Jonathan Pageau.

The video that initiated the discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8tV…

My first conversation with Pageau: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0b5m…

I made an error: Harry Potter’s snitch actually contained the Resurrection Stone, which is much more appropriate. My apologies.